Sunday, October 21, 2007

So this week, a discussion of platonic relationships came up. A case of man vs woman, sex vs friendship, Harry vs Sally. It got me thinking once again. ( big surprise there huh? ) Curiosity set up camp, and I just had to know. Could it really be? For those who don't know what it is. Platonic relationship is described as thus.

Platonic love
in its modern popular sense is a non-sexual affectionate relationship, especially in cases where one might easily assume otherwise. A simple example of platonic relationships is a deep, non-sexual (i.e. overtly romantic) friendship.

But Wait! There's more.
At the same time, this interpretation is a misunderstanding of the nature of the Platonic ideal of love, which from its origin was that of a chaste but passionate love, based not on lack of interest but on spiritual transmutation of the sex force, opening up vast expanses of subtler enjoyments than sex.

( ok from this point on, I thought it's kinda bull, but well, its part of the explaination. )

In its original Platonic form, this love was meant to bring the lovers closer to wisdom and the Platonic Form of Beauty. It is described in depth in Plato's Phaedrus and Symposium. In the Phaedrus, it is said to be a form of divine madness ( phft ) that is a gift from the gods, and that its proper expression is rewarded by the gods in the afterlife; in the Symposium, the method by which love takes one to the form of beauty and wisdom is detailed.

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Friendships are beautiful, wonderful things. You’ll see. :)

I borrowed this off my friend's blog. A believer I would say. Nina; my English teacher, said Harry met Sally is a movie about a platonic friendship between two people. Another believer?

I pondered over the movie for a while. Why did Harry end up loving Sally? Why did Sally made love to Harry when they were still friends. When they had sex as friends, they said it was the biggest mistake they could have make, and yet, looking back. Was it not the thing most right that they could have done?

In the movie, Harry started off expressing interest in Sally. Sally was not interested, but hoped for friendship cause he was the only person she knew in New York. Harry does not believe in platonic friendship. They argued over it, and came to no conclusion.

Both went on to have relationships. Harry got married, while Sally got into a non-marriage-commitment relationship ( because she believes all marriages end up with passion dying, and doomed for failure. ) In this we see, Harry believes in marriage, sally doesnt.

Both relationships failed. Harry gives in and decides, what the heck, lets give this friendship a try. They embark on that. During this time, Harry admits he is sad, tries hard, and eventually moves on. Sally says she is not sad over her breakup and that she has moved on. Harry does not seem to think so.

Sally realised her ex was getting married, she cries , and calls Harry over. In a moment of weakness, they kiss and have sex. They both thought it was a mistake. Both avoided each other until New Year's eve, when Harry realized that he did indeed love her. Rushed over, and poured his heart open. So ten years after Harry met Sally, they fell in love, and got together.

Harry Burn's first words come true.

Harry Burns: Would you like to have dinner?... Just friends.
Sally Albright: I thought you didn't believe men and women could be friends.
Harry Burns: When did I say that?
Sally Albright: On the ride to New York.
Harry Burns: No, no, no, I never said that... Yes, that's right, they can't be friends. Unless both of them are involved with other people, then they can... This is an amendment to the earlier rule. If the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possible involvement is lifted... That doesn't work either, because what happens then is, the person you're involved with can't understand why you need to be friends with the person you're just friends with. Like it means something is missing from the relationship and why do you have to go outside to get it? And when you say "No, no, no it's not true, nothing is missing from the relationship," the person you're involved with then accuses you of being secretly attracted to the person you're just friends with, which you probably are. I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let's face it. Which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment, which is men and women can't be friends.



Harry Met Sally wasnt about friendship, it was about love.

Does it matter? No, not really. I'm just stating my stand :-D

Because regarding these things. Really now.

Noone really knows how things would turn out eventually anyway. That privilege is reserved for father time.

Who knows.

There really might be goblins and gnomes in our gardens.
There might really be a talking squirrel.
Or maybe even the tooth fairy.

Being real, is simply just believing hard enough.
And I guess, everything deserves a try at least.
Everything.

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